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inherently

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wow
thank you. ;-)
sometimes i think we're inherently good... i see mia and think that she couldn't do anything evil...

but then she does something very naughty even after i've told her not to... so maybe we're inherently evil. heh.
grrrace,
you always crack me up. i love your sense of humor! i hear you on that kid thing. the whole evil/good issue is a topic that's been floating around in my brain the last two weeks, because, that is what i do. i ruminate. i fixate. i annoy myself with all this over-thinking. heh.
i am slightly obsessive (i say slightly, but if you ask my husband he may say that it's more than just "slightly" hehe)...

i try to occupy my brain with other things... like planning friends' bridal and/or showers and stuff... otherwise the stuff i tend to fixate on is very dark and i get very down.

overthinking can be good... but sometimes it's just... not. hehe.
I think the whole concept of good and evil is such a human thing. My last year teaching, I had a Kindergarden class and we were looking at some animal encylopedia when one pointed to a shark and said they were 'bad'. "Hmmmm" says I (actually, I really did say "Hmmmmm", I found that a VERY handy word working with children!) "What do you mean? Turns out the class had a very clear midset: Sharks bad, fish good. Wasps bad, bees good. Moths bad, butterflies good. I tried broaching the idea that animals were neither bad nor good; they just did what they did. They gave each other the look that said that though they loved me, they thought I was loopy. Come to think of it, i got that look a lot! :o)
i know "that look" quite well!
so much to say....such an age old concept.....I vote for inherently evil but with the capacity to do great good on the human level. I mean have you ever met a child who has to be taught to lie?
here is a converse thought...
have you ever met a baby who has to be taught to love?
yet another thought or two...
consider environmental factors. consider who we are scientifically and all that it entails in terms of survival of the species, evolution through time. from the start as infants, there is love, laughter, tears, anger, etc. it is a broad spectrum. viewed from afar, at least for me, the bigger picture is a really beautiful thing: humanity.

if one views through a lens of evil or good, then that lens could be the paradigm, predisposing one to see what maybe isn't really there. in other words, self-fulfilling prophecy. if i had to choose, i would say good or beautiful. but, i see science and spirit dictating to me that it is really everything, which equals what we call humanity.

food for thought. but i continue to love to hear other's viewpoints they have gleaned through life.
Definitely hear you on this one. Thank God for our ability to love!!! The world would be such a dark place without it.

I admit that my views are VERY pre-disposed towards the traditional biblical ideas of good and evil and more specifically towards the Calvinistic teachings on it.
So now you've got me to thinking a bit more on this. And I have to retract some of my previous statement....
I guess my vote would not be for good vs. evil but for sin & redemption.

I do find that life is much easier to comprehend and to be at peace with, when I view things through this lens. When I see nature and humanity being marred by original sin, it explains a lot of things in this world (aging, death, disease, pollution, love, hate, kindness, sadness, etc.)

The hardest for me, being a reformed baptist, is that I believe God is completely sovereign over everything and that takes trust that I don't have sometimes. It can be difficult to see the purpose in things when I do not have the vantage point that God has for my life and my role on this earth. It can also be comforting to know that a lot of things are out of my hands and this helps me worry less.
[this is good]
always so much to think about when it comes to spirituality.

i came both out of pentecostalism (early years), then calvinism (college/adult years). now, i am neither. i threw the lenses away entirely because what i decided was no one in those camps had the answers concerning god which made any sense to me. and it made no sense in my experience that god would create a world, in part, to hell (tho some say we choose hell - same difference) or that because a lady ate an apple, we're all evil, not redeemed, etc. science beckoned to me and my time traveling, teaching and just living showed me something very different. enter motherhood. that cinched it. i could no longer believe god would create genocide upon his own children... which is how i saw it in very literal terms. i likened hell to telling my kids if they were really, really evil, then i would destroy them or never see them again. deplorable. and it also meant god's love really wasn't more powerful than the bad that is out there. i couldn't believe that i was elected and some weren't. it really smacked of, again, human logic. i now spend a lot of time not feeling comforted by religion and pushing it back with mental cattle-prod. the rest of my family, i'm sure, thinks i'm tempting my own fate or that of my children, but, i know i'm in god's hands. i know god wins in the end and so do all of us. so there you have it.

the amazing thing to me, is that here we all are at vox. all from so many different places, cultures, mindsets... it's a great meeting place to discuss everything in a friendly and thoughtful way. at least i hope i am being friendly and thoughtful! i have such a respect for how you are always supportive and honest and kind.
Oh definitely. I very much admire your transparency and honesty! So brave you are, as Yoda would say. It inspires me to write my own posts about religion sometimes but then I chicken out. It's funny because it seems as if we may have had sort of similar backgrounds. So I definitely love hearing about your experiences and views on these matters.


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